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Author Topic: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders  (Read 647 times)

makinalist

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 12:20:13 PM »
By the time I was in first or second grade I was inexplicably convinced that I was physically inferior and with rare exceptions that has been a self image that has been hard to shake.
Oh, honey!  I was exactly the same way as a child!  I had been born with a common defect -- a congenital hip dislocation -- that was not detected early enough to easily fix.  Long story short, I was awkward and uncoordinated in sports.  I liked to jump rope, ride my bike, swim, and play hopscotch -- all individual activities.  I was,however, the only child in my class to strike out in kickball, after which I hid in the restroom whenever we played.

That self-image has stayed with me for 50 years!
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Styyna

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 01:17:16 PM »
Aww, Listy. Never in a million years would I have thought I'd find someone so similar to me in that way. I probably understand as well as anyone can how it felt to hide in the restroom.

I did have one inspired moment though. Every year we had Field Days which were all about physical competition and eagerly anticipated. Well, except by me (though I did love the ice cream cup and wooden scoop at the end. :grin:) until 5th grade. Participation was entirely voluntary and I, of course, routinely stood on the sidelines. But that year I decided that someone had to come in last in the races so I entered them. I can't say that I was as excited as the other kids but at least I was bored silly. And in one race I wasn't even last!
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cara4art

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2011, 02:07:14 PM »
Aw Styna! Body image can really take a beating from life experiences, illnesses and stresses over the years, but there's compassionate help out there to address this. Someone to talk to that deals with women and body image, and transitions. I know from another thread that you've had to deal with illness. Any kind of big shift or trauma can really affect how one feels about oneself on deep levels until some sort of resolution happens. Might be worth looking around although I know that can be challenging since you had mentioned living away from town.
In the process of counselling, one will come to appreciate one's body and what it can do in the present, and often an appropriate, enjoyable form of movement or fitness training follows. One can't help one's particular bone structure but one can learn new things and come into deeper, positive awareness of one's body. The thing that really empowers women in their bodies is finding something they can do and feeling their bodies acquiring new capabilities, which is different from "OMG - my hips are so fat!" etc. - it's about coming into what's good for YOUR body, not someone else's. That alone can be a real revelation for women, who are more used to comparing their bodies to impossible media standards, or worse yet, being made fun of for one thing or another when young, or even in the present! Even subtle, or not-so-subtle parental messages affect one this way. I know, those early painful experiences can stay with one a LONG time! As women, we are subjected to a barrage of stuff about this and it can really hold us back from having a happier more whole life.
Trust me Styna, even though I don't know what your body looks like, I know there's a sweet strong person in there who wants to get healthy and have a better relationship with your given body. Hope any of this helps - forgive me if I've crossed a line anywhere.

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2011, 03:02:38 PM »
Thank you, cara4art. What a sweet and sensitive reply, very encouraging as well.

You are correct. It has been a life-long struggle and goal - at the same time - to have a better "relationship with [my] body."

Gaining weight, until my 40's except during pregnancy, was a struggle. Then I was put on a medication that, due to my lifelong total lack of concern about quantity eaten, induced a huge weight gain (60 lbs. in a year). I've just begun to get a handle on not only portion control but also choosing healthier foods. My goal is not to diet but to improve my dietary lifestyle in a thoughtful, mindful way. It seems to be working as I'm very slowly losing weight that doesn't come back.

I just posted about a possible fitness option that I am considering now that winter isn't far away. Your input would be appreciated. :)
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cara4art

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2011, 04:11:49 PM »
@Styyna - sorry I mispelled your user name LOL! Glad I could be of help - sometimes I don't always know if I'm coming on too strong with too much input for someone to handle. I'll pop over to the other thread and we'll continue there, as it's gotten more into body and fitness stuff. See ya there!

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2011, 04:16:14 PM »
Styyna and Listy big hug to you both! 
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makinalist

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2011, 10:34:06 PM »
Aww, thanks guys!
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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2011, 12:02:03 AM »
I'm in total agreement about posture, Cara!  It's good for you (back, muscles, etc), for how you feel and how you look.  Even simple things (like the Pilates postural guidance about how to hold your ribs) can tranform how your clothing hangs.

For those of you convinced that a whole body weight training program is beyond you, I have to say that I started just where you are.  But my sister started using The Firm tapes at home, and they worked wonders, so I got Volume 1 to try. This was decades ago!  But when I got Volume 1 , I couldn't make it past the first section, which did a lot of shoulder and bicep work.  So that all that I did!! But I found that the results I got from doing just that one section before pooping out and having breakfast were so amazing that it motivated me to do more.  So even if you pick a couple body parts, and begin to do weight work focusing on them (like shoulders and biceps) you will really begin to see what you can do.  

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2011, 10:52:01 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement everyone! ddgattina, I hadn't thought about starting in a section so that is good food for thought. :)

I, too, am in complete agreement about posture. That is one thing that my mother, unknowingly, inspired in me. At a very young age I happened to notice that, no matter her weight or state of health, she had lovely posture. I've spent my entire life trying to emulate that. What I hadn't considered was the effect on how clothing hangs. Learn something new every day.

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 03:46:26 PM »
By the time I was in first or second grade I was inexplicably convinced that I was physically inferior and with rare exceptions that has been a self image that has been hard to shake.
Oh, honey!  I was exactly the same way as a child!  I had been born with a common defect -- a congenital hip dislocation -- that was not detected early enough to easily fix.  Long story short, I was awkward and uncoordinated in sports.  I liked to jump rope, ride my bike, swim, and play hopscotch -- all individual activities.  I was,however, the only child in my class to strike out in kickball, after which I hid in the restroom whenever we played.

That self-image has stayed with me for 50 years!

Well, I can assure you that you are not alone...
I am not quite sure how my problems with gross motor skills started ; I suspect it is all because I am  short-sighted (I started wearing glasses when I was 11 ), and I also had a history of ear infections (otitis) if meant that I was probably quite deaf at times-this really affected my coordination and balance  and I found PE very challenging, especially games.If you are not good at sports you are seen as an inferior human being. I would have given all my good grades just to be good at sports...It was not until I was an adult that I found my niche and realised that physical activity does not have to be competitive and that there is something for everybody.
I would tell anyone who is concerned about taking up a sport/activity not to give up.Just find what you are comfortable with.
Styyna I have seen a couple of photos of you and you are a beautiful woman. I am sorry that you have had health problems lately and I hope that you are on the way to a complete recovery.xx
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Styyna

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2011, 01:05:00 AM »
I just love this forum and the beauties who post. Who would have thought I'd find other women who are similar to me in their self-perceptions regarding physical abilities.

Thanks, everyone, for the kind and thoughtful replies. I am encouraged to continue to change my mindset about what I can and can't do, with more emphasis on what I can do as long as I start slowly and reasonably.
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makinalist

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2011, 11:47:47 PM »
In that case, S., I will work on changing mine as well!  I know deep down that more movement and some lifting would help me with my physical problems. Let's do it!

Oh - and I love this place, too. TTB is very dear to my heart.
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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2011, 12:38:22 AM »
"Well, I can assure you that you are not alone...
I am not quite sure how my problems with gross motor skills started ; I suspect it is all because I am  short-sighted (I started wearing glasses when I was 11 ), and I also had a history of ear infections (otitis) if meant that I was probably quite deaf at times-this really affected my coordination and balance  and I found PE very challenging, especially games.If you are not good at sports you are seen as an inferior human being. I would have given all my good grades just to be good at sports...It was not until I was an adult that I found my niche and realised that physical activity does not have to be competitive and that there is something for everybody.
I would tell anyone who is concerned about taking up a sport/activity not to give up.Just find what you are comfortable with." - milla

I agree 100% - about the fact that if one were not good at sports you weren't good for much in physical education. Since I grew up in a very small town, for years the only organized outside activity at school was softball, which I hated with a passion, because of several things. When a small flying object is approaching one at great speed it seems that anyone in their right mind would duck. No, one is supposed to CATCH or HIT it LOL! Plus there really wasn't enough movement for this restless gal - a lot of time was spend standing around but all the other girls liked that because they didn't have to move their butts that much. Plus I couldn't hit a ball worth a d*** if you paid me. Basketball, in the last couple of years of high school was better because we had a decent coach who gave us a strong fitness base so we'd have the stamina to play games and beat the pants off of state teams(which we did). We did a lot of calisthenics work outside, in different weather too, to toughen us up. Although some of the exercises were a bear, I did relish the challenge and noticed that I felt really good with hard exercise at age 16 or so. Another thing was that I wasn't particularly a team player(understatement of the year and still is). But it wasn't until I was in my 20s that I found other ways of movement that weren't team-oriented etc. To this day I tend toward things that emphasize individual skill like dancing, weight-training, cardio, Pilates - all good, and help build confidence, a really important thing for women. Movement is awesome!

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Re: Tops for relatively narrow shoulders
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2011, 09:59:37 PM »

When a small flying object is approaching one at great speed it seems that anyone in their right mind would duck. No, one is supposed to CATCH or HIT it LOL! Plus there really wasn't enough movement for this restless gal - a lot of time was spend standing around but all the other girls liked that because they didn't have to move their butts that much. Plus I couldn't hit a ball worth a d*** if you paid me.

I truly laughed out loud at your description of ducking!

As for hitting the ball - or not, as the case may be - in my early 20's I joined a coed softball team that was just for fun, no competition. I was absolutely shocked when I hit the ball and made it to first base! Alas, I was as determined to make it to second base as the second baseman was to get me out and we collided with his knee coming down on my leg. Not only was I out but I ended up in the hospital with a deep vein blood clot. That kind of ended my attempts at hitting a softball. :lol:

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Movement is awesome!

Great sentiment! I'm going to keep repeating this to myself over the next weeks and months. :)
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