My old fave, Rimmel Lasting Finish lipstick in #256 in Goddess has been discontinued, sadly. Haven't been able to find it anywhere, so I guess it really is. Anyhow, I've been looking around - drugstore only, since that's my budget and I tend to like drugstore lipsticks and glosses MORE than higher end ones. Anyhow, in Maybelline's Colorsensational line of lipsticks in their "Naturals" shades there are a few really good ones - Broadway Bronze, Tinted Taupe(a little pinker, but great if one is wearing a slightly smoky plum eye look - this keys in nicely), and if one wants to go deeper, Crazy for Coffee is rich, classy-looking color. There are a couple of lighter shades but I didn't check them out as light lipsticks don't do a thing for me - I have to go to more of a medium shade. There are some nice glosses in the Colorsensational line and cheap too - I got one at Bed Bath and Beyond in Broadway Bronze for just $4.89(at our Walgreens here they're $7.99 which is still pretty good). Most of the nudes that I've mentioned here are warm-neutral, so if one is cool-toned they might not work. Tinted Taupe MIGHT though. Anyhow, with the lipgloss I got, it works GREAT over my Wet 'n Wild #666 lipliner pencil. As well as lining the lips, I fill in the whole lip area with the pencil, and then apply the Broadway Bronze gloss on top. Looks a whole lot more expensive than it is and a great MLBB combo. Even when the gloss wears off some, it still looks good, as one has the stain from the lip liner pencil underneath. I love it when I find inexpensive stuff that works great and looks expensive to boot!