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Author Topic: HELP! Ice dams  (Read 6115 times)

Cougar

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HELP! Ice dams
« on: January 16, 2011, 12:58:50 AM »
I can't believe I'm asking for advice here ... but I figure someone may have dealt with this problem.

Prevention is for the future but now I have a leak coming in the bay window (like a few years before) and now one coming in at the top of the front door.

I've been hunting on the internet and of course will make a Home Depot run tomorrow ... but I've been reading that for an emergency, to make an ice dam sock.  You take pantie hose and fill them with ice melt (not rock salt) and lay them down every 2 feet (hanging vertically on the roof to just over the gutter edge).  This makes melted channels in the snow/ice and give the water a way to flow.

Any of you have experience with this or menfolk with advice?

Thanks ... I keep imagining waking up tomorrow with no ceiling in the living room.  Drat you, Benedict!
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 05:44:49 AM »
My father was telling me about this yesterday. He didn't mention a sock, but he said you can buy salt pellets that you throw up on the roof, which then do exactly as you say. You can probably get them at any Home Depot or hardware store--unless, of course, everyone had the same idea as you.

As an alternative, you could call a roofing person and ask him to scrape the snow off your roof. We did that the winter before last when I heard water dripping in the eaves. I think he charged us $75 for around 15 minutes of work. He just brought a ladder and a roof rake.

We have a cape, though, so it's easy to get to most of our roof.

My sympathies. I actually love winter, but ice dams really put the winter experience in a negative light.

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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 05:48:07 AM »
Pellets of Fire Snow and Ice Melter Calcium Chloride Pellets
So not salt, exactly.


http://www.amazon.com/Pellets-CPP50-Calcium-Chloride-50-Pound/dp/B0044R873C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295174702&sr=8-1

Only one review, but it was from a local person. :)

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Used on recent 12 January 2011 blizzard in New England. Worked as expected. Quickly melted ice layer after I cleared surface snow. Put on wet areas next day when warmer to avoid ice development overnight, and wet areas dried vice icing over. It is pearlized product vice angular and spread well with the simple hand held spreader. The spreader is available on Amazon and works well. Suncast SS025 Hand Held Spreader For Ice Melt/Sand/Salt Snow De-Icers
Some did spill on the garage floor and appeared to melt without any wetness so I'd keep this product tightly covered. The lid does open with a pull strip but then has four evenly spaced tabs which secure the lid to the container, even when I knocked it over. You do not need tools to unseal or reseal the container. Great price and can't beat not having to lug this thing from the store home. Bucket number 2 enroute as we speak. Have a wonderful winter.

He makes it sound like the roof has to be raked first. Hmmm.

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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 09:01:21 AM »
In the diagrams. they lay the sock even on the snow/ice to get a channel melted.  I can see that if doing the toss/spreading thing, you'd want to rake off the snow.

Thank you so much.  I am horrified as to what may happen.
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 09:16:46 AM »
I can't believe I'm asking for advice here ... but I figure someone may have dealt with this problem.

. . .

Any of you have experience with this or menfolk with advice?

Thanks ... I keep imagining waking up tomorrow with no ceiling in the living room.  Drat you, Benedict!

I think this is a great place for advice and/or empathy. Between all of us, we are sure to have experienced something similar to most any situation! (I sent my response via email. Hugs and love, Sis.)
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 12:07:07 PM »
I ahve got absolutely no idea how you deal with that-I just want to offer my moral support!!
Hope it gets sorted. It sounds like a total nightmare.
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 12:51:46 PM »
I never heard of ice dams! Have to ask DH about that one when he gets home. Good luck, Cougar.
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 01:29:07 PM »
Coug, that product I linked to was for driveways/walkways only.

My dad's doing research for us now on the "sock pellet" he saw at Ace Hardware.

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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 01:31:27 PM »

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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2011, 03:02:45 PM »
I'm getting up the gumption to make a Home Depot trip to see if they have anything ready-made.  This is horrible and I was so careful to have the gutters cleared this year.  I think we:
a) Have an overload of snow
b) My attic is way overdue to have all insulation refreshed
c) This side of the house faces North and gets almost no sun (the back side melts off nicely every year)
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2011, 04:33:12 PM »
The latest:

So far, nobody in town I've called has roof rakes (they're all out).  Nobody knows what an Ice dam sock is.

I've put in a request at ServiceMagic.com which is how I found other house support.  Let's hope I get an answer soon!  It's kind of like an Angie's List.

I *will* be obtaining a roof rake.  I'll take the time to research and get it at the best price (auction sites if needed).  I might even get it in the warm season but now I know to start removal ASAP.
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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2011, 04:54:37 PM »
When in a bind, call Amazon!

I found plenty, and most would ship free (but you might want to bump up the shipping, given your walls are already taking on water)

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_9?url=search-alias%3Dgarden&field-keywords=roof+rake&x=0&y=0&sprefix=roof+rake

I also found this ice sock on Amazon (but the pellets that go inside are sold separately, it appears):

http://www.amazon.com/Ice-Dam-Roof-Steps-Deicer/dp/B000NPOLGQ

The ice sock is $10 and roof rakes are around $40. All the ones in the search get good reviews.


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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 05:17:25 PM »
I have no advice to offer, but am sending you lots of good thoughts.  The panic in your posts is heart-breaking. 

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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2011, 06:32:53 PM »
Cougar - I'm so sorry to know that you are dealing with this very scary situation! I never heard of an ice dam before today. From what I have read, when the conditions are right, many homeowners deal with this problem each winter.

I have read once you get those socks in place, the drainage channels will form in about a half hour and you will soon be rid of it.

Also - I read that you can prevent this from happening again (without insulation work) with a roof and gutter heating cable kit.  You can get them on Amazon, You only need to plug them in when you have similar conditions to those causing the ice dams now (2-3 days of below freezing temps following a big snowfall).

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Heat-ADKS-500-100-Foot-Icing/dp/B0000DGAKL/ref=pd_bxgy_ol_img_a

You run the cable, using the clips to anchor it, and plug it in. It's about $150 to run 100 feet of it, and you'll never have this happen again.  I never heard of this, either!

I hope that by tomorrow this fearsome worry will be history for you!  :hug:

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Re: HELP! Ice dams
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2011, 06:38:54 PM »
You all are the bomb.  And I spent a good hour chewing off Styyna's ear  :lol:

Just now, Marco answered me; I'd found him earlier through service Magic and I think he's coming tomorrow.

Short term:
- get that dang snow raked off
- ice socks?
- LOVE the idea of the heating cables

Long term:
- I really am beginning to get just as excited over saving for a new roof and re-insulating the attic (loooong overdue) as I am about clothes and makeup
- rake that dang roof over and over whenever there's a snow, from the get go

Thank you all for caring.  I felt I was some sort of rotten home owner and didn't deserve to run a house.  I'm a little calmer now.
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