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Author Topic: "Grey Pride"  (Read 4533 times)

Veuve

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"Grey Pride"
« on: January 31, 2011, 01:41:09 AM »
An Irish Times article from last year. My favorite line is "Viva Las Greyas."  :D

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2010/0703/1224273601676.html

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Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 08:12:18 AM »
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Then came Body Shop henna mixes, dark green paste with a grassy smell and cowpat consistency, leaving seaweed-green tide marks on the skin

I can so relate to that!

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Our faces get older but our hair stays permanently youthful as we rage against the fading of the follicle.

:lol:

If my hair looked like Ciara's, I would let it go grey. (And, of course, she's only 37.) Mia's, on the other hand, not so much. It washes her out, which is strange because we should always look best in our natural colors. As in, I should have never ever ever have started dying my hair in the first place. Perhaps a bit of face-brightening lipstick would transform her.

In the second image below, I do think she looks better grey than blonde.

Also, these fully grey women are young! I still have less than 10% grey in my hair, and only around the temples, so when I go fully grey, my face will be as old as my hair. I think it might be easier to go grey if your face is still very young.

I really want to try it, but I worry about looking old in the workplace, and because I am not thin, I worry I will just look like a fat granny. I guess I could always die it if I found myself on the job market again.

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Sometimes I look down supermarket queues and think it’s so obvious that all these women are dyeing their hair. Who are we trying to fool?

:(

Interesting that the article was written by a man. I didn't see that coming.

makeupmaven

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 08:16:17 AM »
I think the major difference between the two women in the photo is that the one on the left has healthy-looking hair. The one on the right looks like her hair has a lot of damage. I think a cut is in order to get rid of the damage.
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Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 08:20:56 AM »
I agree. Mia's overall look drags everything down, from the wispy long hair to the trench coat. Even her face is long, so she needs something uplifting. An immediate improvement would be a loose chignon, a deep marine turtleneck, and a mauve lipstick.

She was quoted as refusing to wear mushroom or taupe colors, but I think something in the plummy-brown would suit her much better than that pale grey. She is monotone from head to toe and the pinkness in her skin isn't enough contrast.

milla

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 08:29:00 AM »
I think the major difference between the two women in the photo is that the one on the left has healthy-looking hair. The one on the right looks like her hair has a lot of damage. I think a cut is in order to get rid of the damage.
I agree. A good cut makes all the difference.

Veuve

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 01:44:20 PM »
I agree about Mia's hair needing a cut-- I just see some yellow on the ends that I personally wouldn't want to keep around. I have seen other pictures of Mia, though, that are more flattering.

I think it's only the last part of the article that was written by a male hair stylist...?
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cara4art

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 04:01:11 PM »
ITA about the hair cut, and MIA needs to LOSE that raincoat. Neither the style, nor the color, does anything for her. Here she is a tall attractive woman hiding out in such a garment. A coat in a better fit, and a nicer color would do wonders in the clothing department. A slightly edgy inverted bob with some bangs(or not) would look really cool on her and get rid of the yellow ends. Her waves would show more too, making it more interesting.
One big problem with hairstylists and we might have touched on this before in other threads is the fact that many seem to have the "granny glasses" on, giving one a safe bland haircut that's virtually guaranteed to make one disappear. Hence the importance of finding a hipper hair cutter. Hair that's well-cut and looks interesting looks good almost no matter what the color. But there are some women who REALLY don't look good with grey hair, or they look good in spite of it. Then there are others who look lovely - personally I envy these, as even a little bit of grey just washed me out, even with makeup on. The people who look good with it tend to have to complexion that goes with it, usually on the cool side.

Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 04:26:23 PM »
My mother was a warm-toned natural auburn head, and she looked absolutely terrible with grey hair. She is still dying it at 72, a touch more red than strawberry blonde.

anne

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 01:55:07 AM »
Totally agree with Veuve!
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LemonMyrtle

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 07:08:17 AM »
Ooh, so many unread posts to choose from, but naturally I home in on the one about grey hair!

What a long article. I agree with the general consensus in this thread re who looks good and who needs a haircut.

If the shade of grey suits the wearer, I wonder if an unflattering grey hairstyle truly looks worse than an unflattering brunette, blonde or auburn hairstyle? Is grey really less forgiving or is it just a perception?

Take a man's face with 10 wrinkles and a woman's face with 10 wrinkles. The woman's face will probably be perceived as more lined or older-looking than the man's, even though it isn't. Maybe something like this happens when people see grey hair that's in need of a cut compared with another shade of hair in need of a cut.

One woman in the article said she didn't feel smug about going grey. That made me think. There are probably some who do feel ever so slightly superior because they no longer colour their hair just as there are women who feel smug because they don't wear makeup! I don't. Promise.
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Veuve

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 02:07:48 PM »

If the shade of grey suits the wearer, I wonder if an unflattering grey hairstyle truly looks worse than an unflattering brunette, blonde or auburn hairstyle? Is grey really less forgiving or is it just a perception?

Take a man's face with 10 wrinkles and a woman's face with 10 wrinkles. The woman's face will probably be perceived as more lined or older-looking than the man's, even though it isn't. Maybe something like this happens when people see grey hair that's in need of a cut compared with another shade of hair in need of a cut.


I was looking at The Sartorialist the other day and thinking the same thing about men and women. Why is it that I perceive older men as "less old" than the women?! Unfair. And I'm hoping this perception is changing as we see more examples of vibrant, modern older women.

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Tupelo

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 12:51:33 PM »
I recently decided I'm never going gray. My grays are an ashy mix of silver and sooty hues that in no way flatter my fair, warm complexion. They are mixed with pink-toned strands (I was born a strawberry blond). I feel a little cheated that "going gray" means having to adapt to hair that is unflattering to my complexion.

My stylist told me last week that there are "toning" products to counteract this, but really... why bother. If I am going to be putting chemicals in my hair to alter its color, I think I'll stick with what I'm doing now. :)
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Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 01:07:38 PM »
My mother (a natural redhead) didn't go grey, either. The coolness of her strands clashed pretty badly with the warmth of her skin.

In the end, it's all about making a choice that feels right for you. I am pretty sure I won't go grey, either. My natural hair color is light ash brown with both gold and red highlights, so I suspect grey won't be flattering on me, either. I'll probably end up going for dark ash blonde, or keeping the depth of the blonde close to the grey so when it grows out it won't be as noticeable.

I seriously need to be able to color it myself when I am more than 50% grey. I can't be bothered going to the salon every 3 weeks and fork out $100 for color and tip. No way.

makinalist

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2011, 02:32:08 PM »
I totally understand why many of you would choose not to go gray.  If mine did not suit me I wouldn't be so hard-headed as to keep it anyway.  I would be happy if society considered gray a viable option for some of us, without thinking it automatically makes us old biddies.

I feel fortunate, however, not to be wrestling with the dilemma of coloring.  Gray hair can be very stubborn - it is often color-resistant.  Zuzu is right that she will be better off to color at home.  I hope that works out for her.

Changing texture can be a problem as well.  That's another way I am lucky, I guess - mine stayed exactly the same.

I do get compliments on my hair sometimes, but then there is always the helpful teenager who asks why I don't color it.  Don't I realize it would make me look younger? :gaah:
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Tupelo

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 02:41:08 PM »
I'm not sure the percentage of my total gray. Judging from my part, only, it's about 80%. The texture of my gray is no different than my hair's texture has ever been. It's not coarse.

I do color it myself, and because the color's only on my hair for 10 minutes total, it's probably less damaging than salon coloring. My stylist agrees. I use Excellence to Go from L'Oreal. Five minutes for my roots, then mix the remaining solution with an equal amount of warm water and squish/crunch it through the length. Leave that on 5 minutes, then hit the shower. I only need to do this every 6 weeks or so. I think I can live with this routine for a long time. Especially now that my hair is no longer to my waist!
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