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Author Topic: "Grey Pride"  (Read 4535 times)

makinalist

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 03:15:40 PM »
Tupelo - Does this look as if you have highlights in your hair?  I would think it might, since your hair is not all one color.

I experimented with this at home when I first started going gray (in my 20's).  I would use an ash blonde on my brown hair, making the gray look like blonde streaks.  My gray came in that way, all scattered out, so I had fun with that for a while. 

I stopped around age 30, when temporary color couldn't keep up anymore.  People still thought I was coloring it anyway.  Every once in a while someone still asks me if I do.

I say, to each her own.  In our quest to legitimize gray hair, we shouldn't be making anyone feel she ought to join us.
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Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 03:43:15 PM »
I grey hair resistant or does it not take up color because the hair shaft is coated with product?

Last time I colored my hair with Clairol Natural Instincts, it was if I hadn't done a thing. Not a single grey hair around my temples and part took up any color.

I waited a week and then spent three days in a row using a clarifying shampoo and no conditioner or other hair product. Then I dyed it again, and this time it took perfectly.

Veuve

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 03:47:21 PM »
Or as my friend says, "whatever blows your skirt up!".

I don't know why people think that they have to justify their choice by making it the only correct one...

As for me, I'm trying to go more silver. But I think I need to use a demi on it because the texture is more wiry than my other hair. I'm trying to hit on the right tone to use.

I think it's worth giving natural hair a try, at least to see what it looks like. Some of us have colored our hair so long we have no idea what's under there! Then you can always go back-- but I've heard that many women are pleasantly surprised.
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Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 03:50:29 PM »
Some of us have colored our hair so long we have no idea what's under there!

You can say that again!

Still won't do it, not while I am working in this industry. I'm already fat, so I can't afford the grey hair, no matter how pretty it might be.

I do look forward to having natural hair one day, though. Dying so frequently can't be good for us. At least when I was much younger, I only did it every 3-6 months, if that. If I am maintaining colored hair over a full head of grey, I am guessing it takes as frequent touchups as a bleached-blonde brunette!

cara4art

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 05:16:51 PM »
For the record, I've NEVER had professional color. In the beginning years ago, I made a few mistakes, namely going a little too dark but then I wised up and good input along the way which really helped set me on the right track(going brighter and redder)for my coloring. Think of all the money I've saved by doing it myself! However, I wouldn't recommend DIY if doing highlights(those home highlighting kits can be really iffy I've heard), or going more than a level or two lighter or darker. Reds can be tricky too, unless one has gotten the right mix for one's coloring(which I have)as well as natural-looking grey coverage.

Currently I use a mix of 3 Revlon Colorsilk colors - great color and so cheap too! Who knew that something that cheap could be that good? It's permanent, but has no ammonia in it.

No one should have to put up with looking washed-out if one doesn't want to, IMO.

Tupelo

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 05:59:45 PM »
Tupelo - Does this look as if you have highlights in your hair?  I would think it might, since your hair is not all one color.

I experimented with this at home when I first started going gray (in my 20's).  I would use an ash blonde on my brown hair, making the gray look like blonde streaks.  My gray came in that way, all scattered out, so I had fun with that for a while.  

I stopped around age 30, when temporary color couldn't keep up anymore.  People still thought I was coloring it anyway.  Every once in a while someone still asks me if I do.

I say, to each her own.  In our quest to legitimize gray hair, we shouldn't be making anyone feel she ought to join us.

Ann, the Excellence is 100% gray, permanent color. So, my grays are dark blond, the same as the rest of my hair. But I do keep a little gray around my temples, because I really like it. I just coat them with some Vaseline or thick hair serum before the coloring process.

Mixing the remainder of the color with an equal amount of water (instead of combing it through the length, full strength), gives me some variegation of dark blond throughout the length, making it have depth of color and tone - more natural, in other words. But no real highlights.
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makeupmaven

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 08:23:21 PM »
Since I color my hair at home every month, I alternate between semi-permanent (Natural Instincts) and permanent (going to try the new foam version of Nice & Easy next). I find the greys around the temple to be very stubborn, especially with the semi-perm color. I used to use dark brown but have switched to medium ash brown since the dark brown builds up to almost black after a while. I don't know the percentage, but I am at least 50% grey probably more.

I had a discussion with my friends in NJ this weekend about this very topic. All the women color their hair and no one is ready to go grey. I can't say "never" but I don't see my self letting the grey grow out. I just don't have the right texture for it. Also, since my hair is so dark, it would be quite a drastic change.
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Veuve

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 08:26:41 PM »
Zuzu, work environment was a topic that Anne Kreamer covers in Going Grey. She talked to a lot of people in the course of writing the book (and did some of her own "research"). She was stunned at how much workplace discrimination there was against women with grey hair, especially in the tech industry. Much more so than on the dating scene. She went into it expecting the reverse.
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Kelly

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 08:50:45 PM »
She was stunned at how much workplace discrimination there was against women with grey hair, especially in the tech industry.

 :(  I afraid in high tech, grey = old, and old = old ideas. It's an industry that is constantly evolving, so it cannot afford any appearance of being stagnant.

Unless, of course, you are a man.

milla

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2011, 05:22:44 PM »
Here's a video I found about going grey. I really like this woman's look:
http://advancedstyle.blogspot.com/2010/01/jenny-goes-gray.html
I found this in a blog called Advanced style. Check it out it's fun!

http://advancedstyle.blogspot.com/

Veuve

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2011, 07:12:53 PM »
milla, I love Advanced Style, and Jenny is fabulous! I've posted a bunch of stuff from there over on the Fashion Board if you're interested.
Women always try to tame themselves as they get older, but the ones who look best are often a little wilder.-- Miuccia Prada
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ddgattina

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2011, 10:37:14 PM »
Agree that, like many things, this varies by individual.  And I disagree with the notion (no on said this here, but I've heard it expressed by others) that one's natural colors are always best. Unfortunately, I am one of those women with a warm yellow toned complexion, and my hair color has always been too cool and ashy for my skin.  Ditto my gray.

My ex used to fret every time I got a haircut--longer was always better in his opinion. But when I threatened (as a joke) to stop coloring it and go gray he said "Fine.  Just don't cut it." And he cited several examples of women with gray hair that he thought was beautiful.  As long as it was long hair.  I think he is typical of many (most?) men. But I do think it is true that the corporate/job world has a different attitude. 

Fortunately, at home hair color is really good these days.  And inexpensive. And easy. 

cara4art

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2011, 11:01:35 PM »
"Agree that, like many things, this varies by individual.  And I disagree with the notion (no on said this here, but I've heard it expressed by others) that one's natural colors are always best. Unfortunately, I am one of those women with a warm yellow toned complexion, and my hair color has always been too cool and ashy for my skin.  Ditto my gray.

My ex used to fret every time I got a haircut--longer was always better in his opinion. But when I threatened (as a joke) to stop coloring it and go gray he said "Fine.  Just don't cut it." And he cited several examples of women with gray hair that he thought was beautiful.  As long as it was long hair.  I think he is typical of many (most?) men. But I do think it is true that the corporate/job world has a different attitude. 

Fortunately, at home hair color is really good these days.  And inexpensive. And easy. "
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I couldn't agree with you more, and I'm one of those with the warm complexion. Interestingly enough, when I was younger and had near-black hair naturally, people asked me if I colored it(I wasn't coloring it back then). But as a kid I had natural red and gold in my dark brown hair - it only got near-black just before it started turning grey. Anyhow, now that I HAVE color in my hair, rich reddish-brown/auburn medium colors, people are surprised to hear that I color it it looks that good(even if I do say so myself and I do do my own color jobs). And yes, the home formulas are a lot better now. The companies are always working on their formulas and conditioners and if one follows directions and doesn't just douse the head with color every time for the whole 30 minutes or whatever, one will do just fine.

All the time, in a different part of the country where people tended to "go natural" a lot more, I would see women who were determinedly going grey with warm complexions and they'd ALL look washed out. But a lot of these people were also very determined about giving up any vanity too, since there were a lot of divorcees who were "finding themselves" and did not care about their appearance at all. I know this sounds severe, but it was true! I actually had to hide the fact that I wore makeup and colored my hair, and even that I was interested in any kind of style LOL! However, the ones who were cooler-toned were much more successful in greying and indeed some looked lovely. Again, very individual!

For yours truly, since I'm in the warm camp, I'm sticking with the bottle for a very long time.

Veuve

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2011, 01:13:28 AM »
I have a warm-toned friend who has grey hair and it looks gorgeous, so I think it depends more on the individual. Some people have a lovely shade of grey, and nice texture to boot.  But if someone really likes their hair the way they color it, why not? Although if I find that my natural shade of grey washes me out (which it did when it first started coming in, it looked very dull), I'll tweak it to a more silvery shade. But I no longer think having grey hair is a big deal-- it's the cut, care, and style that really matters.
Women always try to tame themselves as they get older, but the ones who look best are often a little wilder.-- Miuccia Prada
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milla

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Re: "Grey Pride"
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2011, 08:58:18 AM »
milla, I love Advanced Style, and Jenny is fabulous! I've posted a bunch of stuff from there over on the Fashion Board if you're interested.
Thanks, I'll have a look!