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Author Topic: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!  (Read 5206 times)

ILuvLucy

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Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« on: November 23, 2014, 08:25:55 AM »
There are so many hair products out on the shelves, I feel that maybe I'm missing one that might help?
I feel so silly, but the state of my hair is really bringing me down.  It's always, all my life, been fine & straight, but now it's fine & thinning - I guess due to age, since blood work is ok. 

Not only that, but it's frizzy & see-through.   This is not a sudden change.  It's all been very gradual.  I get regular trims & keep it about shoulder-length.  I also get it colored, & it always looks nice after I leave the salon.

For about the last 6 months, I've been using the Loreal Advanced line of shampoo & conditioner, which is a step-up from the Suave I'd been shampooing with previously.I have to be careful with products because my hair is already very soft.   I wash it almost every day, because if I don't, it's even more limp. 
I also always use some kind of volumizer & usually a heat protectant. 
I'd love to have more shine, & to maybe flatten down those frizzies.  I really envy those of you with thick, heavy hair.
ANY advice much appreciated.  :-\
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 09:02:16 AM by ILuvLucy »
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cara4art

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2014, 10:01:46 AM »
@ILuvLucy: which of the L'Oreal Advanced Haircare shampoos and conditioners are you using? It sounds like the Volume Filler line within that might be good for you:

http://www.lorealparisusa.com/en/Brands/Hair-Care-Styling/Advanced-Haircare/Volume-Filler.aspx

Check out the treatment on the far right. Hope this helps!:) Otherwise, you might be looking at something like Nioxin, which is also targeted toward people with fine thinning hair. Hope this helps!:)

milla

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 01:18:58 PM »
I know it is difficult to do this if you are used to washing your hair everyday and using volumiser, but in my humble opinion you need to try and wash it a maximum of 2x per week and leave the volumiser in the bathroom shelf. Instead of spending money in more products, how about investing  in a good brush with natural bristles and brushing  it regularly to distribute the oils? you could also massage your scalp regularly. If you feel you need it, may be you could take a multivitamin supplement?

cara4art

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2014, 08:04:42 PM »
Yes, washing daily(unless one truly has greasy hair)is counter-productive for most people as it dries out the hair, and if there are any problems, it tends to make them worse. No harm in using good body-building products if one just washes twice a week or less. Not everyone can go product-less.

ILuvLucy

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 11:16:46 AM »
Thank you Cara and Milla for replying.
Cara, I am currently using the Total Repair of the Loreal Advanced line.  BUT, I have the Volume Filler.  I recently purchased it and am almost finished with the Total Repair, and will move on to the Volume Filler.  I'm excited to try it.  Then maybe look at the other items in the Volume Filler area.  I haven't gone the Nizoral route yet, though I've thought about it.

Milla, thank you so much for taking the time to reply and give me your thoughts.  Perhaps I'm not describing my hair very well, I know I'm bad at this sort of thing.  It is limp, limp, limp, and probably oily enough that's for sure.  If I wash my hair and blow dry it, using NO products, it hangs very limp (no body whatsoever).  Picture baby fine hair but on an old lady!   :eek:    If I wash my hair and let it air dry, it's even worse.  If I do not wash it at all,  I won't go out in public without a cap on, it looks that awful.  But, believe me, I wish I could just do that every day - shove it up in a cap.   I hate spending time on my hair because I feel "why bother - nothing seems to make it look nice".   If I were to put it up in a ponytail, it would be less than 1/2" thick.

I'm so curious....Do other people with this type of hair really only wash once or twice a week?  I would love to find out their secret because focusing on my hair with less than desirable results is not fun! 

I"m sorry to be such a complainer.  I should be lucky I even have hair, right?     
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cara4art

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 05:24:08 PM »
@ILuvLucy: Oh OK, about what you describe with the oiliness in your hair! In this case, washing more frequently than once or twice a week would definitely be better. Not having that sort of oiliness myself(never had oily hair a day in my life, even as a teen)I wouldn't know from experience though. Actually, volumizing shampoos, conditioners and intense treatments are excellent for oily hair in many cases, as they're not as moisturizing. The last thing you need is a heavy moisturizing agent that would just weigh down your already fine, more oily hair even more. Best of luck with the Volume Filler line of the L'Oreal Advanced Haircare stuff!:)

ILuvLucy

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2014, 08:55:34 AM »
Thanks, Cara!
I envy your curls, & Milla's hair as well  :combhair:
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milla

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 11:32:27 AM »
I have seen photos of Cara and she has, indeed, beautiful hair.My hair is grey (well, salt and pepper) and not particularly thick nor thin, nor oily nor dry; nothing special!
 I am not sure what to say. I can see that you are really annoyed with your hair and I still think that over washing is not the solution. Hair condition is often linked with health; I would seek  my doctor's advice, to rule out any health issues.
If you want to coach  some volume into your hair, what about rollers? I am not talking about heated ones, just large foam rollers (if you hair is long). Another thing you could try is a  change of style. Talk to your hairdresser and look for a style that emphasises volume, perhaps with layers?

cara4art

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 09:39:54 AM »
What might be "over-washing" for one type, might be just right for someone else, due to differences in oil, etc.
But I do agree that many people indeed do over-wash their hair, shampooing daily when they don't really need to, especially here in the US because they think they "should". There are some people who wash their hair TWICE a day in fact, along with the twice-daily showers that seem to be increasingly de rigeur. Mind you, none of these folks are out digging ditches, living in a hot climate(where a quick rinse a couple of times a day really helps), or in heavy athletic training.

milla

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 01:29:30 PM »
There are indeed  people who seem excessively obsessed with showers  and not just your side of the pond. Far be it from me to criticise anyone’s habits, but a daily shower is enough if your work does not involve digging ditches!
 I used to wash and blow dry my hair every day, especially when I was not very happy with the cut. So I would say: start with a good cut. You know that your hair has been properly cut if you go out on a windy day, and it all sort of falls back into place when you get back indoors. If you are going to spend money, make it on the best cut you can get. And then wash your hair every other day with a mild shampoo and use a small amount of product to style it. I would not use conditioner every day, but treat my hair to a conditioning  mask once a week and leave it on for a while (you can either wrap a hot towel round your head or cover it with cling-film).

cara4art

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 05:16:07 PM »
@milla: I definitely agree about the good cut! I'm on a lower beauty budget as most of you know from my other posts elsewhere, but one thing I WON'T scrimp on is my haircuts, given what I have on my head. Hence the good haircuts first and foremost. This is also why once one finds someone who can cut one's hair well, stick with him or her, and follow them to another salon should they move with one's area. I've had my hair cutter for 8 years now.:) Another benefit of a decent haircut, is that it grows out well, meaning that one can go longer in between trims, depending on length of course. I can go a full 3 months or more between cuts because my guy is such a genius - his cuts always grow out well. Whereas a crappy haircut will look it in just 3 weeks or even less!:(

milla

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2014, 12:20:09 PM »
A crappy haircut! you sound like an (East)Londoner :lol: :lol: :lol:

SusieQ

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2014, 01:32:09 PM »
Lucy, I'm the same, if I don't wash my hair daily, my hair looks really bad.  I wash my hair but I don't always shampoo it.  I've also been using Alterna Caviar CC and many people like it, even ladies with fine hair like yours. It's expensive but this is my holy grail product after washing my hair product\. and you don't use much.  It's worth a try. I also purchased enough so now I look for it when it's on sale. I got it from QVC and recently purchased two backups from the Sephora VIB sale.  Oh, btw, I recently had a hair cut and it's all chopped off. It was three inches below my shoulder. Now, it's about three inches above my shoulder.  I love it!  Wash and wear.  :grin:
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cara4art

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2014, 09:21:50 PM »
Longer-term attention to very fine hair should also consider diet in addition to the right care - if one is not getting in enough healthy foods, especially proteins, that affects hair too.

Swest

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Re: Is there any HELP for my awful hair?!
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2014, 09:43:26 AM »
Im more or less in the same boat. My hair has always been fine but in the past thick and pouffy. Now its thinning. I was maybe 2x week dont use a lot of product unless its a leavin conditioner or some kind of heat protectant. No more than one after product after using wash out conditioner.   

Anyway this has been more or less my solution to thinning hair:

I have a extra deep sink in the house and I have been using that to wash my hair since I can control the temperature of the water. For me it seems to make a difference. Less hair shedding and w/in a week or two my thickness or body seems to come back.  Diet also usually helps lots of deep leafy greens and protein . Fish when ever I can helps my hair and makes my skin glow. I ve been on vacation for  a week and forgot to take many of my supplements and my hair seems to be thinning out again so will start with the biotin and fish oil pills when I get back home.
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