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SusieQ

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Planting Seeds
« on: September 27, 2016, 11:13:30 AM »
As I care and wait for my orchids to blooms, I've started getting into planting seeds. I've only planted succulents seeds but hope to branch into more this spring.

What have you planted from seeds?
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Re: Planting Seeds
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2016, 01:53:51 PM »
I have got a tiny lemon tree in a pot that I grew from a single pip. At first it grew very well and it was my pride and joy, but it got a bit sickly and I don’t know how to treat it. It has white, sticky sap all over. It is still trying to grow, brave little thing. SusieQ, do you know anything about lemon trees?

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Re: Planting Seeds
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2016, 07:51:37 AM »
SusieQ - I've been thinking about you and your orchids! I was wondering if they have a dormant season but since you are waiting for blossoms I'm going to guess not.

Do you have an update on your seedlings?

Milla - How is your lemon tree? Did you determine what is causing it to leak sap? I hope it recovers and resumes healthy growth!
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Re: Planting Seeds
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 10:33:00 PM »
I have got a tiny lemon tree in a pot that I grew from a single pip. At first it grew very well and it was my pride and joy, but it got a bit sickly and I don’t know how to treat it. It has white, sticky sap all over. It is still trying to grow, brave little thing. SusieQ, do you know anything about lemon trees?
Hi Milla, work have kept me busy for a bit.  Today was raining and don't ask but I thought about me being MIA here for a while. No, I don't know anything about lemon trees. Ours seems to be doing well.   It's funny but in the orchids world, we like the sticky sap, in some cases.  I hope your lemon tree is doing good!
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 10:40:13 PM »
SusieQ - I've been thinking about you and your orchids! I was wondering if they have a dormant season but since you are waiting for blossoms I'm going to guess not.

Do you have an update on your seedlings?

Milla - How is your lemon tree? Did you determine what is causing it to leak sap? I hope it recovers and resumes healthy growth!
Hi Styyna!  Some of my orchids do have a dormant period - depending on the genera. I have about four generas that will need rest during the winter in order for them to bloom next year.  My seedlings are all doing great!  I planted another succulent that gave me seeds and they are growing! I'll take pictures during the day and post new pictures of them.  I also have a mexican butterworth which is a  carnivorous plant that is taking over my grow space.  I started with two mature plants and I have dozens of them.  The good thing about these carnivorous plants is you need them if you grow orchids because they eat the gnats that are  everywhere. Of course, now that I have so many, there is no more gnats problem! YAY!
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Re: Planting Seeds
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 06:54:11 AM »
I will have to take a photo of my little lemon tree.
As for orchids, I have never been lucky with them. They seem very promising for a while, then they go to sleep and never flower again...

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 01:49:54 PM »
SusieQ, you are always full of surprises! I didn't know there was a carnivorous plant that could make a serious dent like yours do.

I haven't persuaded DH to consider growing orchids yet but we're still getting settled in. I seem to be making frequent trips to the cities just north of us and there is, according to DH, a fabulous orchid shop in one of those cities. I am considering visiting that shop and, with their guidance, purchasing a couple of orchids and the necessary supplies as a surprise for him.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 03:22:13 PM »
SusieQ, you are always full of surprises! I didn't know there was a carnivorous plant that could make a serious dent like yours do.

I haven't persuaded DH to consider growing orchids yet but we're still getting settled in. I seem to be making frequent trips to the cities just north of us and there is, according to DH, a fabulous orchid shop in one of those cities. I am considering visiting that shop and, with their guidance, purchasing a couple of orchids and the necessary supplies as a surprise for him.
That would be such a great surprise but be careful about what they sell you. Maybe you can send me pictures and look at the prices, too. They tend to jack up the price when the plant is in bloom.  You may be better off buying something online.

Let me know if you need help or recommendation. :lol:
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Re: Planting Seeds
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 04:27:20 PM »
My little lemon is still going on and I have planted some bulbs, mainly daffodils and tulips.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 06:21:57 AM »
Susie - good advice and thanks for the offer! Unfortunately, my idea might not work. We have a lot of storage boxes that he wants to move from the upstairs garage to the downstairs garage (our house was built with lots of storage space!). I have worked hard to preserve the downstairs garage as a space for him to do whatever he wants, including growing orchids. His plan, when we've idly talked about it, was to use grow lights like he did before so that space would be perfect. No worries about a little spillage on the floor - it can just be swept away or hosed down the drain. He's hiring someone to move the storage boxes so I plan to supervise to be sure that they use as little of the space as possible. I'll keep you posted!

Milla - sounds like your lemon plant might be OK and I'm envious of your bulb planting. I'm not a gardener or I'd have lots of tulips and iris. Your tulips and daffodils sound pretty!
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Re: Planting Seeds
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2016, 10:00:11 PM »
Susie - good advice and thanks for the offer! Unfortunately, my idea might not work. We have a lot of storage boxes that he wants to move from the upstairs garage to the downstairs garage (our house was built with lots of storage space!). I have worked hard to preserve the downstairs garage as a space for him to do whatever he wants, including growing orchids. His plan, when we've idly talked about it, was to use grow lights like he did before so that space would be perfect. No worries about a little spillage on the floor - it can just be swept away or hosed down the drain. He's hiring someone to move the storage boxes so I plan to supervise to be sure that they use as little of the space as possible. I'll keep you posted!

I have grow lights in my living room and the orchids do really well. If he gets back into orchids, you may not too many space after a year or two. Orchid growing is quite addicting! I just got a greenhouse for my orchids.  :grin:
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 05:57:03 AM »
A greenhouse! Do tell! Spill all the details please. You are really growing your "operation" and soon I will be ordering from you and saying "I knew her when she just started out!"

We have an appointment tomorrow to have the boxes moved from one garage space to the other and I will be on hand to supervise and ensure they use space economically. Our weather has been gorgeous for November and is predicted to continue for another week. I'm hoping to squeeze in a trip up to the orchid store during that time. Santa might arrive early in our household!
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2016, 03:23:01 PM »
A greenhouse! Do tell! Spill all the details please. You are really growing your "operation" and soon I will be ordering from you and saying "I knew her when she just started out!"
LOL!  I'll make sure plants are at very, very, very discounted price.  :lol:  Shameless plug on my youtube channel. I am in the middle of editing the greenhouse video. Once I'm done, I'll post the link here. Shameless!!



We have an appointment tomorrow to have the boxes moved from one garage space to the other and I will be on hand to supervise and ensure they use space economically. Our weather has been gorgeous for November and is predicted to continue for another week. I'm hoping to squeeze in a trip up to the orchid store during that time. Santa might arrive early in our household!
OH, I hope Santa brings some orchids !!
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2017, 11:05:50 AM »
SusieQ, I have to tell you...my DH is finally becoming interested in orchids again!

It started at Christmas when, instead of orchids, I got him a hydroponic growing farm to grow herbs for use in our kitchen. He wasn't all that interested at first but set it up anyway and then, once the plants started coming in his interest was captured.

Then my son and DIL came for dinner and brought me a beautiful bouquet of white tulips which got my DH to thinking about why he never brought me flowers. The next time he was at the grocery store he came home with a pretty bouquet AND an orchid!

Now he's all excited about starting to grow orchids. He's even discovered that, if a lift system is in place to pull the roots out of the water, they can be grown hydroponically. I personally would like to see some around the house, too, so will encourage regular growth as well.

Our next step is a trip to the Twin Cities to an orchid nursery to select orchids and supplies. Well, that's our second step. First he has to do his research about lighting and growing media and so on. His birthday is in March so I told him the trip to the nursery would be his birthday present.

I'm so excited to see him grab onto something that interests him again! He's been a bit of a lost soul since we moved and with his moderate to severe chronic pain he's been a bit depressed. This is something he can do in spite of his pain. And I owe it to you for bringing it up in the first place and planting the idea in my head. I went and planted it in his head and it's germinating!

Now, I'm off to watch your videos. I've fallen behind. Thanks, SusieQ.

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2017, 01:11:21 PM »
Update on my little lemon tree: it looked so sickly that I decided to prune it. Hope I have done the right thing. We'll see...
We have got a single orchid; it is my husband's 'pet'. He enjoys looking after it and it seems do be doing well, it has a couple of interesting new buds and the roots look quite healthy.
We also have an amaryllis, which was a gift from a very kind neighbour. It is doing well, but it will take quite a few weeks to flower. They are quite spectacular! I must say that I have mixed feelings about these flowers; they can look stunning but they also remind me of the 'Little Shop of Horrors' :lol:
Your poor DH, Styyna. I can sympathise, as my dear old man's hip has been  playing him up this winter. To make matters worse, he broke a tooth eating a biscuit and had to have an emergency dental appointment. The tooth could not be saved and he had it out yesterday. To make matters worse the weather is really miserable.I have not been in the garden for weeks.

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2017, 04:28:28 PM »
How is the lemon tree faring now? Did its grooming help it out?

I'm so sorry to hear about your DH's hip and tooth. I'm sorry he lost a tooth but at least that shouldn't cause him any more trouble. The hip sounds like a chronic problem. Is replacement a potential solution for him?

DH continues to have issues arise, pushing his pain to the back burner. He's undergoing tests of his heart this coming week. I'm glad about that though because I've been worried about his heart for some time. He has COPD and sleep apnea and his father died suddenly of a heart attack at the age of 76. I think DH's father didn't have the other problems that DH has so even though DH is only 67 I worry.

Back on topic, his orchid, now named Maggie, is doing very well. Her blossoms just keep opening up and she seems to love the north-facing window we put her in. She gets bright but not direct sunlight there. I can't wait until he gets more!
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 12:36:26 PM »
The lemon tree is still there, it remains to be seen whether my drastic treatment has worked! The orchid looks quite promising, and we have got snowdrops in our garden! I love it when they come out.
Hope your DH is feeling better. My old chap is still complaining about his swollen gum...but it was a difficult extraction and it took about 10 minutes! :eek:

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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2017, 09:45:09 AM »
Hi Styyna!!  I am so glad to hear about your DH! I've been so busy at work and trying to keep up with my youtube channel and make sure none of my orchids suffer that I've not been here in a while.  I've lost one orchid but that's not bad during my busy months at work.

It's a new world of orchid outside there since the last time he grew them...tell him that people grow orchids in water!  That's been the latest shocker in my orchid life and been trying it myself. Now, you tell him that you can go on vacation and place your orchids in water and not worry at all!

Let me know how it's going with his rediscovering orchids again.  I have mine all over the place!  We have one month left of this crazy work schedule and I can enjoy the spring and summer!  :grin:
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2017, 11:02:00 AM »
SusieQ, I still haven't found time to keep up with your videos. I'm subscribed and you have been busy posting videos! One of these days I'll have a lazy afternoon when I can just focus on them.

DH names his orchids so we have Maggie and Ivory, both phalaenopsis (not sure of the plural for that) and they are doing great. This is his birthday weekend but we have house guests coming so next weekend is when we'll go to the orchid store that's a couple hours away and he'll pick out some more.

His hydroponic herb gardens (he's added to them) are putting out more herbs than we can use so he harvests them and shares them with friends. The one herb that we could use more of is basil so I think we might plant some outside this spring so that we can make pesto. That requires lots of basil leaves.

I'm sorry you lost one of your orchids but I suppose sometimes that happens. When DH grew them before he lost all of them to a virus, slowly and painfully. This time we will have them all over the house and not all concentrated in one room like he had before.
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2017, 09:36:19 AM »
Hi Styyna! I appreciate you subscribing to my channel!!  I love the your DH names his orchids!! What I've done is when I buy a new orchid, it's place in a separate area - TLC room - from the main group for about a month and I also water it separately.  I tend to check the newcomer more and see if there are any changes. If its in bloom, I leave it alone until the blooms dies and repot immediately and spray the entire plant with benzoyl peroxide but I do this early in the morning so that the orchid has some time to completely dry out because there is nothing that can kill an orchid faster than water in its crown.

I can't wait to hear what he has purchased.  I would love to try growing basil and our plant group in the office will be doing that after our busy season is over - next week! 

You should post pictures of his orchids. I would love to see them.  :)
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2017, 09:08:01 PM »
SusieQ, our shopping trip this coming weekend is in jeopardy. DH and I have been working on our taxes and he's feeling like we spend too much. We don't but he doesn't see the day to day bills so when he sees the summary numbers he's always in shock. Happens every year at this time. I'll have to jolly him out of his state of mind and then he'll be ready to get more orchids.

About a week ago he brought home a new phalaenopsis and we named her Sissy because she's a sister to the other two. I'll try to catch a good picture of the three when the light is right.

Why do you repot immediately after the bloom dies? Is that just for new plants? And what's the purpose (and mixture) of benzoyl peroxide spray? And did I get that right - it's benzoyl peroxide and not hydrogen peroxide? I see I still have much to learn!
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2017, 02:32:43 PM »
LOL!  You are right, it's hydrogen peroxide.  :lol: I love the name of the new orchid!  Sometimes, when an orchid is in bloom and you take it home, it is going into a different growing environment and that alone can shock the plant and may cause the blooms to die prematurely.  If you allow it to acclimate to its new home and don't disturbs is pot, the better the changes that you will enjoy its blooms longer.

I always repot when I buy an orchid not in bloom.  Usually, these orchids are mass produced in huge greenhouse and can't tell what may be lurking in the pot/media. By repotting, I can check the roots and cut off any dead ones - spray with hydrogen peroxide  :grin: - and repot in a clean pot. But, that orchid will still be in the TLC unit until I'm sure there is no pest or anything wrong with the orchid before it is released in the general population.  :lol:

I've found slugs and snails in orchid pot/media and don't want those running around in my grow area. :) And, any other pests that see my orchids as a cornucopia of food.  :lol:

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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2017, 08:44:03 AM »
When you repot do you go up a size in pot or retain the same size? It's my understanding that orchids like to be root bound.

When you buy more than one orchid at a time (but from the same place) do you isolate each of them or do you put them together in the same room? I ask because we've yet to get to the orchid store but when we do I anticipate we will come home with more than one new plant.

And about spraying with hydrogen peroxide - do you dilute it with water? if so, what ratio do you use? And then do you spray the entire non-blooming plant - roots, leaves, and all? How wet do you get it?

Finally, while I love probing your mind for answers to my questions, do you have any good resources - online or books - to recommend? DH has been very appreciative of the tips you've offered so far and I'm sure I'll still have questions but we really should be doing our own research, too. :)
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2017, 10:27:00 AM »
Please don't hesitate to ask me questions!  I love to help  as much as I can.  :)  Usually, when I buy new orchid, I keep it in the same pot size if possible unless there lots of growth and the orchid is practically growing out of its pot and then I do size up.  My main concern about repotting is that I want to make sure that there is nothing in the media that can eat new baby roots - tiny snails are often too small to see and they love those baby roots.  Orchids do love to be root bound if they are mounted. In a pot in bark or sphagnum moss that can breakdown in a year or two, you have to repot because the old media can cause root rot and harbor unforeseen pests.  I usually smell the pot and see if it smells bad and that's when I repot.  :grin:

If I purchased them from the same vendor, I do keep them together but I am rather anal about it and do check everything leaf and as much as I can see inside the pot with a magnifying glass.   :eek:

I use the hydrogen peroxide straight up. There is a hydrogen in a spray bottle I found at WalMart and I just keep filling it up.  My main concern are the roots.  But, when I repot, I usually wash the entire plant because it can't be helped when I gently clean the roots before I spray them with the hydrogen.  It won't hurt the plant.  As long as  you remember to do this early in the morning so that the plant dries out before night, it will be fine. I usually keep the orchid outside to dry and if not possible, I place the orchid in front of a fan.

I've purchased many books and look at them from time to time.  The American Orchid Society: http://www.aos.org/It cost me $65 a year to be a member. You get online information, webinars, magazines and more. Joining a local orchid society is great, too. I haven't joined one because I really don't have the time since I may have to volunteer some of my time.  Online youtubers. I started my youtube channel about two years ago and there were not many orchid youtube channel then but now, omg. But, you have to take everything you watch, like things you read, with a grain of salt.  Also, your orchids are your best resource, too.  They will let you know what they love and what they don't like.  When you see a sign of something not right that's when you start looking for answers.

What I have learned so far in the three years that I've been growing orchids that it's all about your environment and do you have the type of orchid that will do best in your environment? Are the orchids growing indoors all year round, part indoor and part outdoor? What about wintering your orchids even if they are indoor orchids only? I know your DH has experiences with orchids and he knows about humidity and air circulation if the orchids are indoors.

I think this got way too long since I have a tendency to go on when it comes to orchids.  Please don't hesitate to ask away.  We may have to start an orchid subject.  :wink:
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