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Author Topic: Hair serum  (Read 2289 times)

milla

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Hair serum
« on: November 22, 2016, 09:10:08 AM »
Since I stopped colouring my hair, I find that I need a richer conditioner to stop it going frizzy. I love the grey and people have complimented me on my hair colour (it seems that grey is the new black  :grin:), but it is quite dry and I have been growing it. I would like to try a serum, but I have got no idea what to buy. Any ideas?

cara4art

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 04:32:46 PM »
Try DEEP moisturizing conditioning at least once a week. Grey hair is indeed drier than naturally-pigmented hair. Just using a richer conditioner otherwise isn't quite enough. Some deep conditioning masks come in jars, others in tubes, as they tend to be thicker than regular moisturizing conditioners. Also, don't overlook protein in masks as well, because grey hair can also be lacking in structural proteins. Sometimes it takes a mask that has both. To get maximum benefit from a deep-conditioning treatment some people recommend applying heat like a heat cap and leaving the treatment on for a half-hour at least. I don't do the heat thing myself but just leave it on for that half-hour, or more. On the diet side, be sure you're getting in some healthy fats as well as sufficient protein - this does affect hair quality as well. I don't know if you have this in London, but L'Oreal Damage Erasing Balm is excellent, as well as Neutrogena's Triple Moisture treatment that comes in a jar. Even though grey hair isn't color-treated, it does have moisture and protein needs. As far as hair serums go, I have no experience with those. Hope this helps!:)

milla

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 05:18:30 PM »
I have not thought of using a mask but perhaps I should give it a try. In the past I have not used masks a lot, because they can weigh your hair down; however, I don’t think that I will have that problem now, as my hair is quite dry. I have googled the L’Oreal mask you mention; could not find it, but sometimes products are sold by different names in the UK. I found this one, which I will try:
 http://www.boots.com/en/LOreal-Hair-Expertise-Ever-Riche-SuperSmooth-Mask-Pot-200ml_1308173/
Thanks for the advice!

cara4art

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 01:13:38 PM »
I think you would be pleasantly surprised at the great effects of using a hair mask aka deep treatment now, what with the very dry hair. Yes, I do know that L'Oreal, as well as other large manufacturers have products under different names and lines in Europe, Latin America, Mexico, etc. The one you depicted might be a great start for you - give it a go once a week and don't be afraid to leave it on for awhile.:) Some people, in addition to deep treatments once or more per week depending on just how often one washes one's hair, have good luck with a lightweight hair oil to seal moisture in after shampooing and conditioning. I think L'Oreal makes one - over here it's called Extraordinary Oil, or one can use a little straight argan oil, also good for hair. Best of luck!:)

milla

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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2016, 04:04:05 PM »
Thanks again. I think I will try the mask first before the oil. I am trying to grow my hair, which makes it even drier. I miss having long hair. Don't care what they say about over 60s ...long hair...blah blah blah. Just want to give it a try. If I don't like it, I will have it cut, simple as that.

Styyna

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2016, 09:41:29 PM »
I know nothing about deep conditioning or hair serums but I have to stick my oar in and say "Go for it, Milla!" I've seen beautiful women with beautiful long gray hair, women in their 50's, 60's and beyond. If I had lots of gray hair I'd be tempted to endure the in-between stages and grow it long. I hope you like yours when it's long. :)
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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2016, 10:35:34 AM »
@milla: Yes, the deep conditioner will make a difference as you grow your hair longer. One doesn't have to pay attention to rules that say that one should do this or that as one gets older - it's so individual. You won't know until you see how your hair looks longer. One mistake that many women make with longer hair when older is not trimming it along the way to make it look better while it's growing. It can look scraggly if one doesn't. Then again, for some women, shorter hair IS better. Again, it's individual like Styyna indicates with some 50s and 60s women with beautiful long hair.:) Yes I agree that adding the mask is your best bet right now. Another thing that might be contributing to dryness is the fact that you did go through treatments earlier that do often leave lasting effects on the body generally, so it's also not surprising one can have some dry hair, as well as skin, going on. Plus the fact that none of us are getting any younger LOL! Best of luck!:)
@Styyna: Just about anyone can benefit from deep conditioning - even if one's hair is not colored, greying, or all white hair IS drier than younger, virgin-colored hair, and often structural protein. A great cheap mask at the drugstore that I use regularly and still would if at any time I decided to go grey(not anytime soon)is L'Oreal's Advanced Hair Care Total Repair 5 Damage Erasing Balm. I use the corresponding shampoo and conditioner as well the rest of the time. Sales often happen on L'Oreal - sometimes that mask is only $5.99. You know I don't like having too too many products in general, but a deep conditioner once a week or so(depending on how often one washes one's hair)really does make a difference once one finds a good one that one likes. In the L'Oreal Advanced Hair Care line-up, there's a newer combo I might try, the Extraordinary line for Curls that includes shampoo, conditioner and deep conditioning mask.

milla

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 05:21:54 AM »
Cara, I have considered having   my hair trimmed, but I just want a quarter of  an inch off, and if I go to the hairdresser  now she will just go scissor-happy and cut a lot more than that. So I am just going to use the mask for the time being and when it is a bit longer I might venture into the hairdresser. Yesterday a very aloof sales assistant (I haven’t met her kind for a while…) told me that the best product was Philip Kingsley’s Elasticizer; I have tried it several times and it did not do anything for me. She told me that I was not using it properly; apparently you have massage it in your hair and then leave it overnight. Would you go to sleep with your hair covered in cream???

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2016, 11:55:35 AM »
@milla: From what you describe with your hair cutter, I can't blame you for wanting to hold off on that trim. When I was in my 20s I had an awful experience that way - I had grown my hair to just below shoulders, and wanted only a half-inch trimmed off. Well, this cutter, before I could stop it whatsoever, cut 6 inches off my hair right up to my EARS in an unflattering cut besides.:( I didn't let ANYONE with scissors near my hair for a full year and a half after that. About having stuff in one's hair at night, I've never done that but I do know that some people do indeed leave deep treatments in their hair overnight, usually wearing some sort of cap to seal everything in and not have it get all over the place. Best of luck!:)

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2016, 07:56:38 PM »
Hi Milla, you can also use coconut oil and leave on while you are doing housework. If you don't have time and want to leave it on for 1/2 hour only..after you put on the coconut oil wrap your hair in plastic and then a towel. I've tried this method many times and I haven't cut my hair in over a year and no split ends. I do need a cut because it's too, too long.
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milla

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2016, 01:39:36 PM »
How long is too, too long ? mine is just touching my shoulders.

cara4art

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2016, 05:47:04 PM »
"Too long" is relative to each person, so it's different for everyone. Again, don't let anyone tell one that it's AGE that determines how long hair should be. It's more one's overall look, features, type of hair one has to begin with, and lifestyle. However, "too long" can also mean that it's really time for a trim as the ends are unmanageable and the whole haircut has lost its shape, whatever length that is. Hope that helps!:)

Styyna

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2016, 07:31:04 PM »
I totally agree with Cara. Too long is when it's too long for you, not anyone else. I've seen women with very long gray hair who put it up in a messy bun a lot of the time and leave strands flowing - beautiful! Enjoy your hair the way you want to!
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milla

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2016, 04:44:09 AM »
I have bought the mask and I've got it on. I've wrapped my hair in cling film and I am wearing a woollen beret. Very stylish! I am not going out today, so I can wear it around the house while I am doing the chores!

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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2016, 10:22:45 AM »
I have not thought of using a mask but perhaps I should give it a try. In the past I have not used masks a lot, because they can weigh your hair down; however, I don’t think that I will have that problem now, as my hair is quite dry. I have googled the L’Oreal mask you mention; could not find it, but sometimes products are sold by different names in the UK. I found this one, which I will try:
 http://www.boots.com/en/LOreal-Hair-Expertise-Ever-Riche-SuperSmooth-Mask-Pot-200ml_1308173/
Thanks for the advice!

I use the Pro Naturals hair repair mask once a week, it contains argan oil. I find it keeps my hair really smooth & silky. My hair really shines white with a few shades of grey!
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Re: Hair serum
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2017, 06:15:16 AM »
I had the same problem, though I have never coloured my hair. I tried different shampoos and conditioners, but nothing worked. Entirely by accident I found an article about the best hair products for this summer (https://therighthairstyles.com/best-hair-products/). There was a living proof satin hair serum among other products, and I decided to try it. I was really surprised of the result. My hair became soft and smooth. Of course, I make DIY masks, but sometimes I don't have enough time for this, and the serum helps me to take care of my hair every day. I hope it helps!

milla

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2017, 04:44:33 AM »
Amelia, thank you for re-visiting this post. Hair is a major issue for us ladies, because if we get it right, everything looks better! here in the UK, I have seen this range (Living Proof) in two shops; one of them was Space NK, which sells higher end products, not always marvellous, but very often quite expensive. I am always a bit cautious with products that cost a bit more than what I usually spend. I would not mind splashing out once in a while if I was sure it was going to make a difference, but how is one to know without trying? Especially when the reviews vary from 'wonderful' to 'awful' I have checked the reviews on the Living proof hair serum on the Space NK sight and that is precisely the case. Lately I have been using the Pantene Age Defy range (Shampoo and conditioner) and alternating it with a 'blue' shampoo that is meant to keep the grey silver grey (not yellow grey). I have also given up on the long hair, because it really does not suit me. I have a trim every 4-6 weeks. I like my hairdresser and the price is still very reasonable. Any other views on hair, ie style and products?

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2017, 10:20:18 AM »
In the last month I did try the L'Oreal combo for curls(the Extraordinary Oil Curls shampoo, conditioner, and corresponding mask). My hair was "just OK" with it, but my scalp was definitely not. Something in those products irritated my scalp something awful, and it got worse each time, as it wasn't that bad in the beginning.:( It kinda snuck up on me. Scurried right back to the L'Oreal Total Repair 5 combo that I'd been using and was fine with for a few years. Thing is, there were all kinds of great reviews for the curl collection, with only an odd one along the way from people who were not impressed. I really did have to discard the bottles and the jar, with barely half of the products used, as I don't know anyone to give them to. Moral of the story - just because something gets great reviews from someone with similar hair, or skin that matter, doesn't mean that it will work for one! One NEW product that I added, which is a styling product, HAS worked out for me - the Cantu Curl Activator Cream which I apply a little of before my cheap get(LA Looks) The curl activator cream really does bring out curls more and the gel holds them. Great for people with looser, mixed curl patterns like what I have!:) I got the Cantu product at the drugstore in the "natural"(African American)hair care section. I had read a review by someone who has similar hair who had good luck with it, and it works for me.:) So you never know!:)

milla

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2017, 12:51:07 PM »
That is true, Cara. A few years ago I decided to buy a so-called ‘cult’ cleanser, that is still getting great reviews everywhere. Well, I am one of the few women who had a very strong allergic reaction to this product and my skin isn’t even that sensitive. I wish some of the mid-range and expensive products came in smaller, cheaper versions so that you could try them without having to spend £££.
From what you have told us over the years about your hair, I am not surprised that you have found a good product in the ethnic section. At the moment, I am quite pleased with the Pantene and I still have loads of both the shampoo and the conditioner. When I finish the bottles I might give the Phyto range a try (I have had a couple of samples and I liked it).

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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 10:16:38 AM »
@milla: which "cult" cleanser was it, that you were allergic to? Just curious!:) About the finding stuff in the ethnic hair care section, those of us with mixed-texture looser curl patterns have to be careful because a lot of the products are heavier and better for kinkier hair types. None the less, there are some gems to be found. A woman with similar hair as mine over on MUA gave the Cantu product a rave, and the idea sounded great. Since it's pretty cheap if it didn't work I wasn't out a lot of money, but it turned out to be a real keeper.:) Since one only uses a little bit, like less than a coin-sized blob, that bottle will last a long time.:) Usually my very thick hair just laughs at a coin-sized blob of anything but this scrunches really easily through wet hair(post shampoo+conditioner)before scrunching gel.:)

milla

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 12:26:46 PM »
The cleanser is called Liz Earle Cleanse and Polish Hot Cloth Cleanser (see below):
http://uk.lizearle.com/cleanse-tone-moisturise/cleanse-and-polish-hot-cloth-cleanser.html?ingredients
It is not prohibitively expensive and it is a great favourite here in the UK; as you can see it gets great reviews. In fact, most reviewers think it is wonderful, but there are a few people who had an allergic reaction, very similar to what happen to me. Raised red bumps, that looked and hurt like burns. :(
Cara is this the hair product you bought?
https://www.superdrug.com/Natural-Haircare/Shea-Moisture/Shea-Moisture-Coconut-Curl-Enhancing-Smoothie-326ml/p/708626?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIysTpsaPc1QIV5CnTCh2JSgSNEAQYAyABEgKfiPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CJOc29Cj3NUCFcKsUQod5F0M2A
it looks like it is also available in the UK.

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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2017, 01:23:12 PM »
@milla: Thanks for the reply - hadn't heard of the Liz Earle product, as I tend to stick with simple drugstore products plus one Rx and a simple serum from an online vitamin retailer. The Shea Moisture product you linked isn't the one I'm using but I did take a look in our drugstores along the way. Only recently did they come out with a 3 or so ounce tube of it rather than the tub. If indeed I try this product I'd go with the tube first. Anyhow, here's the link to the Cantu product that I use: https://www.amazon.com/Cantu-Shea-Butter-Moisturizing-Activator/dp/B009AZ3WH4